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absc honked back 19 Jun 2026 15:43 +0200
in reply to: https://bbs.keinpfusch.net/users/uriel/statuses/01KVFXZWT8YDTYQ0V5STH7V3VY

@uriel @hyc

Even at the italian ITIS, when I was there, the programming course from the third year started from Assembly and C, later C++.

We where pretty much taught, at 16 years old, how to do manual memory management the proper way, and what the wonderful SEGFAULT is.

I think we never went higher than the canonical C++ way of dealing with objects and even then, for the teachers it didn't matter that much. They cared more about us being able to reason on algorithms and their implication on memory usage and layout, CPU cache friendliness etc..

After that, I never had issues dealing with higher level concepts, from object-oriented programming, to the Erlang's actor model etc..

absc bonked 18 Jun 2026 22:33 +0200
original: david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

On the train and four older (60+) people are having a nice little grumble about how annoying it is that there's always AI at the top of search results and it's usually wrong.

Just in case you were worried that only young people hate this crap.